Episodes
![Episode 132: New 9/11-CIA Revelations [TRAILER]](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/13961165/Slide1_300x300.jpg)
Wednesday Jun 21, 2023
Wednesday Jun 21, 2023
Kit Klarenberg and Ben Howard join us to discuss new revelations about the CIA’s criminal mischief prior to 9/11.
In particular, we discuss Kit’s recent GrayZone article “Bombshell filing: 9/11 hijackers were CIA recruits.”
Also relevant to this discussion is the article by Ben Howard, Aaron Good, and Peter Dale Scott, “Why Did Key U.S. Officials Protect the Alleged 9/11 Plotters?”
Kit Klarenberg is the Editor of Grayzone UK. His work explores the role of intelligence services in shaping politics and perceptions. Ben Howard is an independent researcher and our resident 9/11 expert.
Special thanks to Dana Chavarria for the sound engineering!
Music: "Stuck In” by Mock Orange

Saturday Jun 17, 2023
Saturday Jun 17, 2023
After nearly a one year hiatus, Professor Peter Dale Scott returns to resume our Minding the Darkness, Minding the Light oral history series. We pick up where we left off, in the aftermath of Watergate. This is the 13th installment of the series with prolific poet, historian, and political theorist who gave us parapolitics as well as the deep politics approach. Special thanks to Casey Moore for the episode art and Dana Chavarria for the sound engineering!
Music: "Tell Me" by Mock Orange
![Episode 130: Approaching the 60th [TRAILER]](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/13961165/Slide1_300x300.jpg)
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
Tuesday Jun 13, 2023
James DiEugenio returns to talk about the upcoming 60th anniversary of the JFK assassination and the significance of Robert Kennedy Jr.’s presidential run. DiEugenio is the screenwriter and co-creator of Oliver Stone’s JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass as well as JFK: Destiny Betrayed—the four-hour cut of the film which is now available for purchase. Jim also runs the fantastic Kennedys and King website and is the author of Destiny Betrayed: JFK, Cuba, and the Garrison Case as well as The JFK Assassination: The Evidence Today.
His latest book is JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass. An accompaniment to the documentary film, the book includes a section from me.
Special thanks to Dana Chavarria for producing the episode!
Music: “Window” by Mock Orange

Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
Wednesday Jun 07, 2023
Asa Winstanley joins us to talk about his new book, Weaponising Anti-Semitism: How the Israel Lobby Brought Down Jeremy Corbyn. Asa is an investigative journalist at Electronic Intifada.
Check Asa Winstanley’s substack page!
Music: "All You Have" by Mock Orange
Special thanks to Dana Chavarria for producing the episode!
![Episode 128: The Company’s Tortured Logic w/John Kiriakou [TRAILER]](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/13961165/Slide1_300x300.jpg)
Tuesday May 30, 2023
Tuesday May 30, 2023
We talk with former CIA officer John Kiriakou. We pick up where we left off with John last time—as the Global War on Terror was beginning, setting off a series of events which would lead to John exposing and essentially blowing the whistle on the CIA’s torture program. John is co-host of the Political Misfits radio show on Sputnik International. He also has a Substack in addition to writing for Consortium News and CovertAction Magazine.
Music: "Only in Dreams" by Mock Orange
Special thanks to Dana Chavarria for producing the episode!
![Episode 127: Parafascism and the Deep State (Part 4) [TRAILER]](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/13961165/Slide1_300x300.jpg)
Friday May 26, 2023
Friday May 26, 2023
We are joined by the two academic sages of deep politics, Peter Dale Scott and Ola Tunander. This is Part 4 of our Parafascism and the Deep State series focusing on two seminal essays—Peter Dale Scott’s “Transnationalised Repression” Parafascism and the US” and Ola Tunander’s “Democratic State vs. Deep State: Approaching the Dual State of the West.”
Please check out:
Ola Tunander’s Substack
Peter Dale Scott’s new book, Reading the Dream: A Post-Secular History of Enmindment.
Special thanks to Dana Chavarria for producing the episode!
Music: “Roll Your Eyes” by Mock Orange
![Episode 126: Parafascism and the Deep State (Part 3) [TRAILER]](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/13961165/Slide1_300x300.jpg)
Monday May 22, 2023
Monday May 22, 2023
We are joined by two old friends and luminaries--Peter Dale Scott and Ola Tunander. Following up on the previous two episodes in our Parafascism and the Deep State series this series, we discuss two seminal essays—Peter Dale Scott’s “Transnationalised Repression: Parafascism and the US” and Ola Tunander’s “Democratic State vs. Deep State: Approaching the Dual State of the West.”
Please check out:
Ola Tunander’s Substack
Peter Dale Scott’s new book, Reading the Dream: A Post-Secular History of Enmindment.
Special thanks to Dana Chavarria for producing the episode!
Music: “Roll Your Eyes” by Mock Orange

Thursday May 18, 2023
Thursday May 18, 2023
Aaron and Seamus discuss Ola Tunander’s seminal essay, “Democratic State vs. Deep State: Approaching the Dual State of the West.” The piece was included in the anthology Government of the Shadows: Parapolitics and Criminal Sovereignty in 2009. This episode is the second part of our Parafascism and the Deep State series focusing on classic works by Peter Dale Scott and Ola Tunander. Future episodes will include Scott and Tunander themselves.
Special thanks to Seamus McGuinness for producing the episode!
Music: “Roll Your Eyes” by Mock Orange
![Episode 124: Parafascism and the Deep State (Part 1) [TRAILER]](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/13961165/Slide1_300x300.jpg)
Saturday May 13, 2023
Saturday May 13, 2023
Aaron and Seamus discuss Peter Dale Scott’s seminal essay, “Transnationalised Repression” Parafascism and the US.” The piece was written in 1977 and published by Lobster in 1986. This episode is the first part of our Parafascism and the Deep State series focusing on classic works by Peter Dale Scott and Ola Tunander. Future episodes will include Scott and Tunander themselves.
Special thanks to Seamus McGuinness for producing the episode!
Music: “Roll Your Eyes” by Mock Orange
![Episode 123: The Quest for Peace w/RFK Jr. [TRAILER]](https://pbcdn1.podbean.com/imglogo/image-logo/13961165/Slide1_300x300.jpg)
Wednesday May 10, 2023
Wednesday May 10, 2023
We are joined by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. who discusses his presidential campaign and the quest for peace undertaken by his uncle and father.
Special thanks to Dana Chavarria for producing the episode!
Music: “The End of the World” by Mock Orange